Last Updated on November 4, 2022 by Lawrence Berezin
“Place of Occurrence” is NYC parking ticket gold
Misdescribed place of occurrence. I am a giant fan of Western movies. Do you remember the scenes when the good guys pan for gold and the bad guys steal the rights to the land or kill ‘em for those little gold nuggets? Here is some NYC parking ticket gold. Do you have the gumption to fight the bad guys for your dismissal?
Let me run some parking ticket numbers by you. 10M NYC parking tickets were issued last year. We find about 10% of the handwritten tickets have omitted, misdescribed, or illegible required elements. Let’s say there were, conservatively speaking, 3M handwritten tickets issued last year. This means 300,000 parking tickets are eligible for dismissal upon application. There is gold in them darn handwritten tickets.
What about the remaining 7M digitals, scanned dismissal-proof NYC parking tickets?
We find gold in approximately 1-3% of the remaining scanned parking tickets. What is 3% of 7M? According to a very older man’s abacus, that is 210,000 parking tickets with mistakes. If I were panning for gold, I’d go right to the “Place of Occurrence.”
We get many, many telephone calls from members of the NYC driving public. Here’s how the conversation generally goes:
- Larry B: Is your parking ticket hand-written or scanned?
- NYCDP: Scanned
- Larry B: Have you checked for mistakes on the front of your parking ticket?
- NYCDP: No, it is a scanned ticket. You know, computerized, mistake-proof, perfect, incontestable
- Larry B: Have you checked the “Place of occurrence?”
- NYCDP: Well no
- Larry B: Humor an old man
- NYCDP: Sure… Hey, the place of occurrence is wrong!
This happens all the time. The parking ticket warrior forgets to insert in front of or the opposite. You win. Oops. The warrior completely blew the address. You win. Oh, the warrior inserted the old corner of (C/O)….No can do. You win. How about the old treasure hunt place of occurrence, E/S of 7th Avenue 30 feet south of the north side of the left-hand corner of….Get out of jail for free!
Interactive maps
Here is a bonus secret (6 secrets for the price of 5). Use the interactive map found on our website and the DOT parking regulation map (red button on the resources web page). Or, use Google Maps with street view to look at the place of occurrence (remember Google Maps images are not up-to-date).
What’s the value of the dismissal of your parking ticket? PRICELESS! Always, every time, without fail, pan for “Place of Occurrence” parking ticket gold.
Would you please share your parking ticket dismissal experiences? When you’re right–FIGHT! How else will we win the hearts and minds of the NYC driving public?
You may wish to check Evil Empire’s list of required elements.
Commentary
A defective place of occurrence is one of my favorite defenses to an unjust NYC parking ticket. In the same vein, I always check on every description that is entered in the “metes and bounds” format. For example, if you see, “N/S of Park Avenue, 15 feet south of ________ Street, it is wrong because if the sides of the first roadway entered are North or South, then the second street must be East or West. Ticket dismissed!
Likewise, if the sides of the first roadway are described as Northside (“N/S”) or Southside (“S/S”), but the roadway really goes North and South, the sides of the roadway must be correctly described as East and West or you win.
Be safe.
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HEy Larry, I got a ticket on Manhattan recently for fire hydrant violation. While I was parked within 15ft of the hydrant, the computerized ticket lists the place of occurrence as the address on the opposite side of the street from where I was parked, yet the ticket reads “in front of 2050 ****”. I was parked on the opposite side, in front of 2053 ****. Can i get this dismissed as incorrect?
Dear Matt,
I am sad to report (after dedicating 6 years, 7-days-per-week, with two months off for my heart attack) that I will no longer be answering questions on Larry’s Blog. You’ll find a treasure trove of information in the 746 Blog Posts and growing, F.A.Q.’s, and comments.
If you need help, you may wish to check out of service offerings. Here’s a link.
https://newyorkparkingticket.com/passenger-vehicles
Just want to say thank you for sharing this valuable information. Your advice saved me $230! I was just about to send in the check when I found your blog.
I recieved two no standing tickets in less than 24 hours for parking in a school zone. When I parked the car in the evening I noticed that there was a bent pole but no signs. When I came back to move the car, a brand new pole and no standing school zone single arrow sign had been installed! I thought I dodged a bullet because there were no tickets on the windshield but a few weeks later I received the summons in the mail… Two $115 tickets from two different officers.
I filed a foil request in my defence as you suggested but as of this comment date the wait time for a response from the DOT is over 90 days. Fortunately there was “gold’ to be found in the Place of Occurrence. Each ticket described the same spot differently without using the actual address of the building I was parked near. They both had the “100 feet east/west of the corner of” description but to my luck they messed up the avenues. The tickets described a legitimate parking space on the far other end of the street. I used the DOT web site which has a handy measuring tool on its map feature to indicate the spot the officers had described along with photos of the block to show the no standing sign was pointing in the opposite dirrection. I appealed by mail and both tickets were dismissed! Next time I see a “too good to be true” parking space or missing sign I will take the time to snap a quick photo or two. Enjoy your retirement sir.
Dear Tim,
What a wonderful success story. I especially loved the ending. Thanks so much for sharing it with us.
Thanks for your kind words, Tim.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I received a double parking ticket with the wrong address as place of occurrence. The place of occurrence is 10 blocks away from the actual place of occurrence (possible typo). But the most favorable evidence for me was that the house number on the other street does not exist. So I decided to mail a letter via USPS to the supposed place of occurrence and the mail was bounced back due to a non-deliverable address. I used this evidence in my online hearing and my summon was upheld and I was ordered to pay the full fine. Is there a strategy for me to appeal the decision? Thanks.
Brian
The ALJ wrote that “online records shows the address exists” but completely ignored my argument that if it is true then USPS mailman did not do their job properly.
Dear Brian,
I am sad to report (after dedicating 6 years, 7-days-per-week, with two months off for my heart attack) that I will no longer be answering questions on Larry’s Blog. You’ll find a treasure trove of information in the 746 Blog Posts and growing, F.A.Q.’s, and comments.
If you need help, you may wish to check out of service offerings. Here’s a link.
https://newyorkparkingticket.com/passenger-vehicles
Hi, thanks for all you do on this webpage! I received a ticket and do not understand how to read the place of occurrence.
Mine states :
“N/S W 130th St
10 ft E/ of Adam Clayton Powell”
I may just be reading it wrong but it looks to me like there was a typo and it should have been either N or S W 130th, not both. If so, would this help me fight the ticket? Thank you in advance for any advice.
Hi Katie,
Good afternoon.
A warrior is allowed to enter the place of occurrence in one of three formats:
-Front
-Opposite
-Metes and Bounds
The warrior chose the metes and bounds format. Translated it means:
North side of West 130th Street_10 feet East of Adam Clayton Powell.
Did you park on the North Side?
Did the warrior omit Boulevard?
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I received a ticket for parking to close to the hydrant my car was parked in front of 20-28 but he wrote 20-26 the next house over. I took pictures of where my car was in front of and not the house he marked. Think I could win? Thanks.
Hi, Vanessa, I am unable to reply to blog comments for the next few months. My old batteries need a recharge. Sorry, Larry.
Hi Larry
I have a disability permit on my dashboard which half of these warriors totally disregard and always give me a “no parking ticket”, which I have to make then show and prove. This Time I forgot and fell into judgement along with a No Standing ticket “S/S Queens Blvd, 70 ft west of 80th Road”. HUH? Lol. Is this place of occurrence legit?
I just got a boot on my car, $70o. My tickets are in judgement and I’m not sure what to say. I have to go face the crooks. I been battling health issues and can’t afford this.
Please help.
And thank you for sites like yours! Very informative.
Hi, Mitzi
So sorry to hear about your parking grief.
Once an evil parking ticket falls into judgment, you will need to file a Request for Hearing after Judgment.
When I was a young, energetic, parking ticket fighter, I fought a few of these and lost ’em all.
The place of occurrence you asked me about is called a metes and bounds description. One way to figure out if it was described correctly is by plugging in the streets and the other cross street
in this application. Here’s the link
The most common mistake Warrior’s make is entering south side when the sides of the street are east and west.
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I received a ticket for parking in a bike lane and the place of occurrence was described as “N/S 51st Ave 65ft W/ of 2nd St ” the other cross street “Center Blvd” isn’t showing on the DOT website.
I argued that I could not see the street markings on the ground because other cars were also parked along the street. And although there is a bike lane sign on the corner of 51st and 2nd, it is partially obstructed by a “School Crossing” sign.
Are there any tips you could offer?
Thanks for all your help,
George
Hi, George,
Fighting a parking ticket is challenging because not only do you have to figure out a winning defense, but you’ve got to submit the proper proof to prove your defense.
And, common sense is not a defense.
I’m afraid you didn’t pick winning defenses for a bike lane ticket.
-If a bike lane was actually there but invisible, you would have to present photographs showing the bike lane was completely invisible. But, if there was a sign notifying a driver of a bike lane, you would have to present photographs that the bike lane sign was completely invisible from every, all, angles
I applaud your passion and effort. I’m sorry the outcome wasn’t what you hoped for.
Regards,
Larry
Hello!
Today I got a double parking ticket. But I was pulling out the geoceires from the car. Anyways I got a ticket but the address was wrong. I was in front of 4001 8Th Ave. and the person who issue the ticket put 4001 E 8th St.
What should I do?
Hi, Sarah,
Ouch! Sorry about the double parking pain.
You have a winning defense, i.e. misdescribed place of occurrence. The challenge is to prove the address was wrong. You gotta prove you were parked on 4001 8th Avenue and not 4001 E 8th Street.
You may wish to think about why you were on 8th Avenue. Can you prove it (were you shopping, picking up a friend, etc) and why you activity couldn’t possibly be performed on E. 8th Street.
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I too got a double parking ticket in front of 355 RSD (on 108th street) but the agent said it happened at 355 west 108 street. However, there is no such building at 355 west 108 street (the highest it goes is 330 west 108 before it gets to the corner which is 355 RSD). Is that proof enough?
Hi, Alex,
Good morning.
I would fight the evil ticket and argue that the place of occurrence was misdescribed.
Make sure you present the proper proofs to eliminate any wiggle room for the judge.
I would submit at least two separate proofs that the address does not exist.
Let me know the outcome.
Good luck, Alex.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry, I got a parking today in Brooklyn & disputed it in the app. Is this a good defense?
“I parked my car on Broadway Ave to go to Walgreens. I walked to the meter that was no more than 10 feet away. I was trying to pay for my parking and the meter informed me that I could not park there at the moment. As I walked back to my car to move my car to a better spot, a parking ticket officer had just pulled out his meter to give me a ticket. I tried to explain to him that I was trying to get a ticket and he completely ignored me. After some back and forth arguing where the office said I couldn?t park there he issues my ticket and walks away past an SUV. When I asked if he was also going to give that car a ticket as a man dressed in a tie and button up shirt got into the SUV his exact words to me were ?He?s a friend, he works for the department, I?m not giving him a ticket.? This is completely unfair and also goes against the initiative set forth by Mayor De Blasio last year that stated that illegally parked police cars would be ticketed just as civilians cars are. This ticket officer showed favoritism and unjustly gave me a parking ticket of $115.00 that I did not deserve when I was trying to do the right thing and pay for my car. Thank you.“
It’s also worth mentioning that the parking ticket officer never asked for my name or license and put down the wrong rules on the ticket that was stated on the sign. He put “No standing. Days/Hours: Except Su/4p-7p” the rules on the sign above we’re more complex than that. Thank you!!
Hi, JC,
Good morning.
Sorry to learn about your parking pain.
I’m afraid the defense you raised in quotation marks is not a winning defense.
However, if you raised the no name and wrong rule, you have two winning defenses if you presented the proper proof, properly.
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry thank you for your efforts and I hope you can help me. I was given a parking ticket for parking in a ” No std ex trk load/unload” however my car was parked in the hour meterd parking. The hour metered parking sign was blocked by a truck and i assume that the agent didn’t see the sign and mistakenly issued the ticket. The second issue is that my car was parked infront on 7118 5th ave bklyn and the ticket states 7124 which falls in the truck zone. I have pictures showing my car in the hour meter parking + muni meter recipt, I also have pictures of the truck blocking the hour meter parking sign. My name isn’t mentioned on the parking ticket. What is my defense to plead not guilty online?
Thank you
Hi, Ahad,
Good morning.
Based on your story, assuming the truth of all the facts you stated, and your favorable facts are provable, I would plead not guilty because:
-The place of occurrence was misdescribed
-The Rule regulating the place of occurrence was misdescribed
Your biggest challenge is to persuade the judge that your photos were taken immediately after you discovered the parking ticket on your car’s windshield and you did not move your car before taking the photos
I would check out the NYC DOT Parking Regulations Map to see if the official records confirm your story.
Good luck, Ahad.
Regards,
Larry
HI LARRY….hope you are well.
Hoping you may help me. I was driving home today and noticed a parking ticket on my wiper…the “location” states only “Patchogue Rd, Port Jefferson Sta”….Patchogue Rd, is 20 miles long, with approximately 5 miles within Port Jefferson Sta….I was doing shopping on “Patchogue Rd” which is a retail artery, but with no “in front of”, “opposite of”, no “metes & bounds”, and no “address number” was noted on the parking ticket. Is this a valid ticket in New York (NY was not cited as address either) ? I cannot imagine where or why I got the ticket. Much thanks and be safe, Al Tommaso
Hi, Al,
Weird!
It is not a valid NYC parking ticket.
If you’d like, email me a photo of the evil thing and I’ll have a look.
larry@newyorkparkingticket.com
Regards,
Larry
Hello Larry,
Thank you in advance. I am a Brooklyn History Teacher and was told I could not double park in front of my sheepshead apartment by a woman who appeared to be a traffic agent while I was unloading some of my unborn daughter’s presents from the bubby. Anyway, the woman told me to park at the corner along a post with no sign at the end of a bus stop in front of a Temple that now allows parking. She said that really, since there is no sign, technically the whole block is a bus stop, and it was midnight, and she said thy’d Have to write the whole block tickets. I parked along this post, barely sticking out and sure enough at 6 am when I went to take my wife to work, I saw. Ticket written at 130am.
Anyway, it is what it is, but my question is the address place of occurrence states “s/s ave x 25ft w/o e 28th street’. Verbatim. No mention of the borough. Anything? Thank you
Good eyes, Dan G.
I always fight tickets that omit the borough. I win about 80%.
I argue that the place of occurrence must unambiguously describe a unique location. But, if the borough is omitted, the place of occurrence is not correctly described.
But, but the description you describe is completely wrong. Did you read the ticket itself and found that misdescribed place of occurrence? Or, did you look at the parking ticket details summary on the website? If you looked at the ticket, you win.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
Thanks for the awesome blog post as always.
I recently got a ticket for double parking. I just moved to the city and still have my Maryland plates, and the warrior filled in the correct bubble for Maryland on the ticket; however, in the online system my ticket is listed as having Maine plates. The ticket itself is correct, but the online system is wrong.
I am very unsure what to do in this situation. Should I leave the ticket alone, or should I appeal it?
Thanks for the advice, and all you do.
Hi, Jake,
Welcome! And, thanks for the kind comment.
The official “ticket” is the online image of the parking ticket.
I would fight the ticket and argue a misdescribed state of registration and offer:
-A screengrab of the online image
-A copy of your vehicle registration (Maryland)
-A photo of the plate attached to your chariot
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry! Your website is a lifesaver.
I got a double ticket for accidentally parking in a bus stop on W 179th street between Wadsworth and St. Nicholas Ave. 2 x $115, ouch.
The address used in Place of Occurrence is a real address, but the Pct. on one ticket says 032 (wrong) and the other days 034. This street is actually the border/boundary between the 33rd and 34th precincts…maybe they’re both wrong?
Question: Does an incorrect Pct in the Place of Occurrence make the one ticket invalid?
Thanks for your tips!
Hi, Carrie,
Thank you for your kind comment. Very nice of you to say.
I’m afraid the PCT is not a required element. Even though this Cop or Warrior didn’t know where he worked, we are
not entitled to a dismissal of the evil ticket for this mistake.
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry what a wonderful and well-written blog! I got a ticket for hydrant where the place of occurence was described as “C/O E 7 and Ave L”… I feel like this is too broad a description but I don’t know what language to use in my hearing request. If you have a few moments I would so appreciate your input!
Thanks so much for your hard work!
Thanks for your lovely comment, Shalom.
You are correct.
I would argue that the place of occurrence was misdescribed because:
-A place of occurrence must unambiguously describe a unique location. However, the location entered on the ticket was not in one of the acceptable formats (Front, Opposite, or Metes and Bounds), and did not describe a unique location.
Congratulations, you’re a winner, Shalom.
Regards,
Larry
Hi!
Just received a ticket for parking at the fire hydrant, but a full address was not provided. And no information such as “across from/ in front of”
Whats the best way to fight this. Do you just say incomplete place of occurrence? Or do I submit a photo that I was parked 15 feet away?
Thank you!
Hi, Magda,
Kudos for carefully reviewing the front of your ticket for mistakes.
Was it a metes and bounds description, such as:
“SS of ABC Street_20 feet East of DEF Avenue?” If so, that is one of the three correct formats to enter a location for place of occurrence.
If not, and the Warrior omitted “in front” or “opposite,” you’re a winner!
I would argue that the place of occurrence was misdescribed because:
-A place of occurrence must unambiguously describe a unique location
In my case, the Warrior did not enter, “front of” or “opposite.”
You can raise more than one defense. If you parked more than 15 feet from the hydrant and have the photos to prove it, I would do so.
Nicely done.
Please let us know the outcome of your just fight!
Regards,
Larry
Thank you for the guidance!
So in this case, I plead not guilty correct?
Hi Larry, I got a ticket for no standing between 9pm-6am
I got the ticket at 9:19pm but the agent typed that it’s no standing from 9am-6am
Can I dispute this ticket ?
Thank you
My wife and I, my dog and cat are moving to Seattle.
I won’t be able to reply to comments until after October 1, 2020.
Sorry!
Regards,
Larry
Dear Larry,
I got a parking ticket with place of occurrence as:
S/S E 31st ST
20ft E/of 5th Ave
To me there is no borough, there is 5th ave or 31st St in queens as well, can I use this to defend?
Also I think I parked at least 25-30ft east of 5th ave, should I take a photo as well as second defense?
Please advise
Hi Brian,
Good afternoon.
Sorry to learn about your parking pain.
This is a confusing way to enter the place of occurrence. It’s called “Metes and Bounds.” The name of the “Borough” is entered in a different box on the front of the ticket.
Check it out and get back to me.
Regards,
La;rry
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your quick response!
There is a field ‘County’ in the row for VC:
VC is 14, county is NY and PCT is 013. Is this how they write borough? Beside this I don’t see anything else similar to Borough. But is NY an accurate borough here?
Please advise.
My pleasure, Brian.
Yes.
-VC14 is the code violation (no standing).
-The County is NY (Manhattan).
-The police precinct is not a required element.
Good luck.
Regards,
Larry
Hello, first I would like to say that I’m loving this blog.
I recently got a ticket with my friend’s car on my block because I wasn’t aware of brand new truck loading only sign from a new lumber business and trying to fight it. After reading all your tips and advises you shared, I realize that I might have to pay it.
However, I’m wondering if it is valid on the place of occurrence status. The ticket say opposite of 175 C. Ave (it’s a building), but the car was not, opposite of that number was an empty space that isn’t even a parking space. Car was in fact opposite of the next door junk/metal yard that doesn’t have a name or a street number. I do have a video and can provide picture as well. Do you think I have a good chance to win?
Thank you for letting me know.
Hi Christel,
You are headed in the right direction.
How are you going to prove the car was NOT parked in the place of occurrence entered on the ticket?
-How will you prove that you didn’t move your car prior to taking the photos or video?
(I don’t think video evidence is accepted)
Looking forward to your reply.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
Thanks for taking the time to write those blog and answer everyone’s posts. It’s super helpful to read through them.
I saw your separate article for out of state vehicles, but nothing really pertaining to NJ vehicles.
I saw on the NY vehicles article that it is possible to fight a ticket if the expiration date is labeled as N/A. Is this true for NJ too?
Backstory: I parked in a commercial vehicle metered parking zone. I paid the meter, but am not a commercial vehicle.
Thanks!
Best,
Samantha
Hi Samantha,
Thank you kindly for your kind comment. It means a lot to me.
And, sorry about the commercial meter parking pain.
The registration expiration date is a required element for vehicles from states that display the expiration month and year on the plate or windshield. For example, NY displays the expiration date on a windshield sticker. While Florida displays the date on the plate.
However, NJ does not display the registration expiration date on the windshield, plate, or for that matter any place on the car. Therefore, the expiration date is not a required element on a vehicle registered in NJ (sad but true).
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I was wondering if you could help me decipher this location given a recent parking ticket:
N/S 97th st
55ft W/of 63rd
I paid for parking through the parkNYC app but didn’t realize that the plate linked to the account I used to pay still under my previous license plate number.
However, the meter # zone in the ticket does not correspond with the zone I was parked and made the payment under. The officer put the zone across the street where I actually was parked. So I am trying to decipher the place of occurrence description if it conflicts with the meter zone he wrote down. If that is “north side” how do you determine that on a street that runs diagonally north/south (runs northwest to southeast).
I had submitted pictures of my receipt and the parking sign through online contesting but just heard it was denied because of the non matching plate number and metered zone. It is frustrating to pay for a violation when I actually had paid for it. This wouldn’t have happened if I could just have used the old receipt on the dashboard.
Thank you,
Giovanni
Hi Giovanni,
Good afternoon.
You are referring to a metes and bounds description of the place of occurrence.
Likewise, the translation is, “North Side of 97th Street_55 feet West of 63rd.
I use the DOT Parking Regulations Map to figure out the sides of the street. Meanwhile, in your case, I would click the link to the DOT Parking Regulations Map. Next, I would enter 97th Street and 63rd Drive (this appears to be in Queens) and click. You will arrive at a map with symbols,
By clicking on the symbols, you’ll find out the compass sides of the street.
Giovanni, why did you fight the ticket first and ask these excellent questions after you lost your fight?
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
Thank you for your detailed instructions. I was able to locate the information I was looking for through the website you directed me to. According to the NYCdotsigns, the street I was fined the parking ticket is labeled either East or West (meanwhile my ticket says N/S 97th street). From what I understood reading your blog, this discrepancy alone would be grounds for ticket dismissal, correct? The notice I got says I can appeal the initial decision. Would I only have to send a picture of the NYCdotsigns with my appeal?
I know, you are correct, I should have looked at this more carefully before I sent my initial dispute. Because I had paid for parking on the phone app, I just sent the receipt pictures but then realized when I got the decision that the officer wrote the wrong meter#zone (my receipt was for the correct zone I was parked but the officer wrote down the zone across the street) and my plate number was for my previous plate although it’s still the same car.
If I send an appeal describing the discrepant N/S versus the correct W/S, do I need to explain the other issues with my license plate being the old one and my actual parking on the other side of the street?
Thank you again Larry,
Giovanni
Hi Giovanni,
Good afternoon.
Technically, you are only able to appeal the issues you raised before the original judge. Therefore, the appeals panel may not consider any “new” defenses on appeal.
Your burden of proof on appeal is to persuade the appeals panel that the original judge made a mistake of law or fact. I would argue and present the proof for any and all defenses you want to raise on appeal. I would say that in the interest of justice the appeals panel should consider that the judge ignored a misdescribed place of occurrence (and then make a detailed argument).
Let us know how you do with your appeal.
Good luck, Giovanni.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
Thanks for your wonderful and resourceful blog.
I got a ticket for an expired parking meter. The officer described place of occurrence as “S/S E 32nd ST 5ft E/of 3rd Ave” and entered Meter/Zone 103989. My car was parked on the North side of E 32nd ST. Zone 103989 is on N/S not on the S/S. I looked at the DOT Parking Regulations Map it confirms that Zone 103989 is on the North Side of the street. How do you that information to fight the ticket?
Also the officer wrote 1st observe (parking meter expired) 3:26AM, when it actually expired 3:26PM. Does this matter?
Thanks
Hi Izzy,
You’re a winner! Meanwhile, you did a great job reviewing the evil ticket for winning defenses.
Here are some tips:
-Misdescribed place of occurrence
You summarized your defense well. Relying on the Meter Zone is excellent.
-Time first observed
I would ignore the mistake becasue time first observed is not a required element for an expired meter violation
Meanwhile, I would add:
-Meter number omitted
The meter number (seven digit number) is a required element for an expired meter violation NOT meter zone (six digit number).
Please let us know when the evil ticket is dismissed.
Nicely doen, Izzy.
Regards,
Larry
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